Q&A w/BC: How do we repackage Buddhism to make it simple, relevant and compelling for young people?

QUESTION from Gerry Trione:

Bhante, As you probably know, there are about 700 million Buddhists around the world, most of whom are in Asia. There are an estimated 3-4 million in the US, but most of whom are Asian, leaving only about 600,000 “westerner” Buddhists; far less than 1% of the population. I know from personal experience that Buddhism is essentially unknown or misunderstood with Americans. Moreover, the prospect of US as a fertile ground for religious Buddhism is becoming more tenuous as young people are taught in school and social media that there is no “god” and anyone who follows a religion is a loser. The result of turning away from religion is the loss of moral and ethical guidelines on how to live a wholesome life. This is why we have such a high rate of drug and alcohol use, and psychological problems. Over 60 million people in the US have psychological problems, and over 50 million have drug addictions. And, its getting worse.

The question is: Why is Buddhism, the proven best means to end mental suffering, so hard for young people to grasp?

ANSWER from BC

Gerry, Thanks for this important question. I agree with you: the modern world needs Buddhism, because Buddhism is almost the opposite of what ails modern culture: its hyper-individualism, its consumerism, its commercialism, its secularism, and so. But exactly this this is what makes Buddhism difficult to grasp for modern people. Buddhism is not an easy-answer guide to life, except in some of its regional, primarily devotional “folk” manifestations, which are simply going to seem strange to westerners.

Partly as a way to popularize Buddhism, many modern teachers westernize or pare down Buddhism. I daresay that much of what is taught as Buddhism by western teachers is not of Asian origin at all, but is a continuation of currents of western thought that can be traced through the early Protestant Reformation, through Romanticism, American Transcendentalism, psychoanalysis, and probably through the beatnik and hippy countercultures. Buddhism is being significantly co-opted by modern culture, rendering it unable to squarely oppose those aspects of modernism that are most vexing. David McMahan’s book, the Making of Buddhist Modernism, offers a fascinating discussion of this issue.

Of course, modern people are always going to see Buddhism through a modern lens. The challenge is to do this without distorting the Buddha’s original intent. East Asians certainly do not conceptualize Buddhism the way Indians did, yet the managed to preserve the functionality of early Buddhism well. Much of my own efforts center around presenting “Early Buddhist for Modern Buddhists” (which I’ve made the name of this web site) without distorting the intention of the earliest sources.

I don’t have a clear answer on how best to promote Buddhism in the west. I’m doing my best. The commercial culture seems to overrun everything. The number of monks in Thailand, for instance, has fallen by 50% in 20 years, apparently because of the growing influence of modernity. Taiwan, on the other hand, continues to sustain very strong Buddhist and Taoist traditions in spite of its modernity. I’d like to know how they do it. I doubt that we will manage a sweeping Buddhist movement, say, in the USA. What we might accomplish is small communities here and there that are dedicated to living sanely according to the Dhammic principles, much as the artifacts of civilization were preserved in the monasteries of the Middle Ages.

MORE DISCUSSION from Gerry

The answer is the primary message of Buddhism, to end suffering, is not being communicated to the masses. It is obscured and eclipsed by a larger focus on the more mystical concepts of rebirth, merit, realms, devas, and the supernatural. The elegance of Buddhism from my perspective, having studied psychology in undergrad, is the close resemblance to psychology of the 4 Noble Truths. Namely, suffering, or “psychic irritants” exist; we know the causes (Three Poisons); Suffering can be cured; and, the cure is known (8 Fold Path, Precepts, etc.). This is classical psychology with “psychoanalysis” and “Psychotherapy”.

What young people ask themselves is: “What’s in it for me?”. The answer is “Happiness”; the end of suffering. But, young people I know don’t think they’re “suffering”. They think that anger, hate, resentment, jealousy, envy, worry, fear, cravings, addiction, anxiety, and depression is “normal”!!! In short, Buddhism needs to be repackaged to appeal to these younger people in a form which is Simple, Relevant, and Compelling.

RESPONSE by BC

I agree with your most of your points, and along with you am particularly alarmed at what young people experience as life.

You are right: Buddhism, at least the early Buddhism taught by the Buddha, is psychological through and through. I am a retired cognitive scientist and I am simply in awe the the Buddha’s understanding of the human mind. I’m discovering that early Dhamma matches up with modern cognitive research well. However, I don’t agree Dhamma bears a close relationship to psychotherapy (although a lot of psychotherapists are Buddhists). The goals are different. Freud described psychotherapy as curing psychological abnormalities that cause individual suffering, and added something like, “so that sufferers can return the common level of suffering that we all share.” Buddhism is concerned with curing the common level of suffering that we all share. But even that goal is incidental to its main goal: to improve and eventually perfect the human character in its dual aspects of virtue and wisdom. I think of the suffering of young people in modern society, and of almost everyone else, not so much as an abnormality of individual psychology, as of the break-down of the society in they live.

As for the “larger focus on the more mystical concepts of rebirth, merit, realms, devas, and the supernatural,” many teachers explicitly exclude such teachings, particularly the secularists. As for preserving the integrity of early Dhamma, I’ve concluded that devas, realms and much of the supernatural (like acquiring the ability to jump up and touch the sun) are dispensable, but fun. Rebirth and merit are critically important. Merit (or the fruits of kamma) is simply the effects of wholesome practice on our character, and can be largely explained cognitively. Rebirth gives us an important way of framing our long-term practice. It’s not necessary to believe that it is actually true as described, only that we accept it as a working assumption. We do this all the time anyway: money is not true, it is a social construct that everyone accepts as a working assumption, and thereby serves an important social function.


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  1. baodad Avatar
    baodad


    Thank you for this important discussion. My heritage is Mormon/Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have lived it devoutly for much of my life, and admire it in many regards. Without it, I believe my life and my children would be different.

    The fundamental aims of Christianity as I have experienced them are significantly different from what I have experienced in the Dhamma. My tradition places very high emphasis on marriage, family, and children. We become enmeshed and invested in cycles of rebirth before we are even aware of them. It’s not even a “thing” on the landscape of my LDS culture. Everything is outshone by absolute focus on and dominance of Jesus/Jehovah. It is extremely powerful and I have paid significant prices to see beyond its compelling, engaging, and sometimes disturbing programs and teachings.

    Buddhism, the Western version I have experienced, does not place as much emphasis on family and its teachings are not as dramatic, hero-based, or engaging as Christianity’s. The Western, Christian-influenced mind sees suffering as a price to pay for which, if endured well, cultivates a deep sense of worthiness and belovedness from God. It’s convincing and captivating and coincides well with modern paradigms of individualistic work/investment -> success/reward.

    At the level of my community and society, the LDS Christian tradition & culture function well and I enjoy many aspects and benefits of it. But at the deeper levels of mind, which some of us – for various reasons – have paid careful attention to, there is significant angst and suffering which must be continually managed and attended to, not unlike the continual care necessary to raise a child.

    I am deeply grateful for the dhamma. It has been life-and mind-altering for me. I do not know how to reconcile it with the dominant culture in my society. It tends to extinguish cycles which some forms of Christianity actively stoke in perpetuating ways. I do not want to be ungrateful for what Christianity does and has done for my and my children. But in midlife, I reached a point where I could no longer continue under its influences and paradigms, which ignored or twisted my experiences of suffering, and actively tried to prevent me from carefully observing my own mind, life, and experience.

    I never set out to learn about the dhamma. But in my continued questioning and investigation, only the dhamma had a depth and a practice that offered significant release from suffering. I am curious as well what other cultures do to help the dhamma be appealing for young people. In my view, the young people are only an extension of the mind of the adults in a community & society.

    Thank you.

    1. bhikkhucintita Avatar

      Sorry for my late reply. Your post got lost in my emailer.
      And thank you for your reply. The experience of those making a transition from one faith to another, of those stuck between faiths, and of those who manage to integrate faiths is certainly relevant to this discussion. Buddhist disapproval of proselytizing puts no pressure on rushing such a process. I always think that if a Christian (or …) comes to Buddhist practice and emerges as a better Christian (or …), we’ve done our job. Buddhism’s basic values are common to most religion (it’s about feeding the good wolf), and Buddhism is almost unparalleled at contemplative practice, which also has an important place in Christian history, though now widely neglected.

  2. leftoverjared Avatar

    The “Western” Buddhist opposition to proselytizing in any form due to previous religious trauma (that’s a guess on my part) may be playing a role in the lack of dispensation. I’ve heard very foolish things from lay teachers about spreading Dhamma through personal serenity and virtuous behavior, but those are precisely the things that post-modern society devalues, due to the discipline involved and the will to instant gratification. That and the now uphill battle against corporate algorithms.

    1. bhikkhucintita Avatar

      The general taboo against proselytizing is certainly relevant here. Buddhism seems to have historically spread quietly by osmosis, but I know there are exceptions in Asia. The one exception I am aware of in the States is Soka Gakai. In midieval Japan, I understand, Zen monks would sometimes establish themselves in a new town by defeating their resident evil spirit through a show of superior magical powers. They would bring fire works with them. A problem with proselytizing is the pressure to corrupt the Dhamma in favor of a simpler message for mass consumption, turning Buddhism into an easy answer religion.

      Buddhism generally appeals to a small subculture in the west, one that is drawn to serenity and virtue, usually highly educated and politically toward the Bernie Sanders left. Within that subculture, relatively few identify themselves as Buddhists, but many know about, are influenced by, and certainly approve of Buddhism. Someone is reading all those books by the Dalai Lama and Thich Nhat Hanh you see in bookstores. Then, of course, there is a solid faction of Buddhist meditators.

  3. lazyk2 Avatar
    lazyk2

    Bhikkhu Cintita,

    Thank you for calling my attention to this blog. As a newcomer to Buddhism, I may have some relevant input to share as to why westerners are hesitant to experience Buddhism:

    1.Learning new ideas, especially in the context of a different culture, requires courage.

    Two years ago I visited the Sangha in Center City for an assignment in Intercultural Communication. Too scared to go alone, I brought along a culturally capable friend. I had read ahead online and was afraid I would commit faux pas (I did).

    2. Practicing Buddha’s way requires patience.

    For example, Western medical professionals suggest meditating to control pain as though meditation is a pill you take out of a bottle for immediate and total relief. It doesn’t work that way; the relief is in finding peace of mind. How can we make patience a valued virtue to Westerners?

    3. The misconception that Buddhism is about suffering and sacrifice.

    The way I see it is that by following the precepts we alleviate suffering, and none of that is a sacrifice, it is just a long road of tiny steps until it becomes habit. For example, it is no sacrifice for me to not say something nasty about someone else, and I certainly feel and have better thoughts afterward for having held my tongue.

    Buddha said, “Come and see,” and taught that each of us has to “figure it out on our own, and at our own pace.” Autonomy is highly valued in Western society. Perhaps focusing on that value and that we are self-determined would pique the younger generation’s interest in Buddhism?

    1. bhikkhucintita Avatar

      Colleen, Thanks for your input. Discomfort with different cultures is interesting. Many Buddhist centers are very westernized. However western Buddhists are loathe to visit ethnic Asian centers. As you know, I live in a Burmese monastery, and we host very ethnic events. Westerners will pay a lot of money to vacation in exotic lands, when they can have the same thing here for free.

      Buddhism certainly teaches patience, but it takes time to decondition years of conditioning.

      Buddhism is about ending suffering. But on the way we sacrifice: every time we resist an urge to do what is consistent with Buddhist practice, it feels like a sacrifice. But you are right: eventually we see that what we’ve gained is so much more valuable.

  4. Joan Denson Avatar
    Joan Denson

    I view this discussion as important to have, to hear about and to discuss. Yes, keep me in the loop.

    Thank you,

    Joan Denson

  5. austin_ep Avatar
    austin_ep


    As someone that fits within the ‘young people’ demographic I am struck by how few of my peers are interested in any form of belief/spirituality/religion. I recall going to the local bookstore as a teenager and being in awe of the numerous books on traditions from India and East Asia. I was raised in a Catholic household so all of what was described in these texts was completely foreign to me.


    I purchased a few books, a copy of the Lotus Sutra, The Dalai Lama’s Pocketbook of Wisdom, etc. They didn’t make sense to me at the time – but turning the pages helped to plant the seeds.


    I now find myself, over a decade later working to sow those seeds. I went through a period last year where I was fascinated by the Vedas. I came across a scholar, R.L Kashyap, whose interpretation of these texts was steeped in symbolism and imagery and it reignited my search within. I made my way back to Buddhism and now I see all of those lists combinations of Number-Noun as much less impenetrable and much more applicable. I have been deep in thought for the past month on the Four Thoughts That Turn The Mind – how precious that we are here as humans. In this lifetime to learn from the Buddha! And, yet, I feel as though I am but a single inhabitant on my island when looking around my community for a sangha to share in this joy and actualization.


    I am not sure how to get other young people to see The Four Noble Truths as more than just a list. I go back and forth between the ideas of it being something that needs a mind that is intrinsically motivated and interested and a concept that needs to be explained and ‘sold’ to every mind. Both of those approaches seem like they are less than genuine and that in true Buddha fashion there has to be a middle way.


    Where I live there is an abundance of liberal thought and self-proclaimed free thinking. But it is more in line with the Six Heretical Teachers rather than a genuine truth. I see people in such a rush in the name of productivity, parents that are completely distanced from their children in the name of engagement, music teachers lacking any semblance of pedagogy in the name of career and it truly saddens me.


    I am happy to have discovered this website via suttacentral and look forward to more discussion.


    For my own curiosity, Bhikkhu Cintita, could you elaborate further or point me to where I can learn more about the realization of merit toward our character in neurological and psychological terms? Thank you!

    1. bhikkhucintita Avatar

      Thanks for your note, austin_ep (does this mean you name is Austin, or that you live in Austin?), and your report of lack of interest in Buddhism or other faiths among the young (when they need it most).

      For an explanation of merit in psychologica/cognitive and sociological terms, see “Chapter 4. Purity” in my book Buddhist Life/Buddhist Path.

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